Say the Word I Wanna Be Born Again

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Affiche Thread savannah Member Joined: 2008/ten/30 Posts: 2208 "If you lot desire to be built-in again, say these words..." "If you want to be born again, say these words to the Lord in sincerity from your heart, correct now: Lord Jesus, I believe that Yous are the Son of God. I am a sinner who deserves hell. Thank Y'all for loving me and dying for my sins on the cross. I believe Yous rose from the expressionless and are living today. I want to plough from my sinful life right now. Please forgive me all my sins and give me a hatred for sin. I forgive anybody who has harmed me in any style. Come into my life Lord Jesus, and be the Lord of my life from today onwards. Make me a kid of God right at present." God's Give-and-take says, "As many as received Christ, to them He gave the right to become the children of God" (John 1:12). The Lord Jesus says, I will never reject anyone who comes to Me" (John half dozen:37). " And so you tin exist sure that He has accustomed you lot. So you can thank Him saying, "Thank yous Lord Jesus, for forgiving me and receiving me. Please fill me with your Holy Spirit and give me power to live for You. I want to please You alone from today onwards." Is the above Biblical? Would this exist good to identify on one'south website? Any thoughts?  2010/viii/3 half dozen:53 Contour RainMan Member Joined: 2010/4/21 Posts: 227 Re: "If you desire to be born once again, say these words..." I think maxim a similar prayer a while dorsum myself. What was fifty-fifty worse was after that i was asked if i wanted the Holy Spirit (obviously rhetorical equally you are expected to say yes) and then some guy prayed for me and tells me to kickoff speaking in tongues. I didn't have a clue what was going on simply that this bloke kept on yelling at me and my wife "common let it out, speak" after a very long time i was speaking in tongues just something in me told me that something was incorrect i could speak in tongues had other gifts but i was being led away from Christ not to him i was more than selfish than selfless. Whatever was the source of these gifts were i dont know i just felt a deep cry in me for Jesus and a baptism of the Holy Spirit every bit i didnt recall whatever of the gifts were authentic. Later i doubted whether whatsoever of the Gifts manifested in that church was authentic either it pointed to self more than Jesus. Anyway i give thanks God that he took me in the messed upward horrible country the church had left me and cleaned and fixed me upwards(he however works on me daily). Now i dont question who lives with in me anymore just always want more of the same(similar the song says fill up me till i want no more). Tin can 1 be saved and filled with the spirit and non be totally in love with Jesus? Prayers like the one you mentioned take been said past millions and led millions like myself into a false security. When God does a genuine work its is lasting. But when we endeavor to practice Gods work with psychosomatic induced emotionalism and mind control we produce believers with no existent root inside themselves that volition only wither away my 2c  2010/eight/3 vii:24 Profile mguldner Fellow member Joined: 2009/12/iv Posts: 1860 Kansas Re: "If you want to be born once more, say these words..." Living this prayer is more biblical than the actual prayer, my only problem with the sinner'due south prayer is it doesn't necessarily pb to repentance or human relationship with Christ Jesus which is really what saves us not this prayer. I would also exist leary of putting information technology on a website because discipleship or making certain people sympathise what a relationship with the Lord is all about is near impossible. Many volition pray this prayer and information technology all ends there, the person tries a alive a good life for Jesus in their own strength and power and then are placed under heavy condemnation when information technology doesn't work considering they aren't quite sure what a relationship with the Lord is about. Jesus never gives united states the sinner'south prayer for leading people to Christ merely just says Follow Me. I believe with Christ and having a relationship Action Speak Louder than words by far, and many pray this prayer to be "saved from hell" while not realizing our salvation isn't from hell but from sin that is killing us daily. I apologize if my words seem strong or harsh but I lived 21 years of hypocrisy because of the sinner'southward prayer. I will say that if one doesn't stop with the sinner'southward prayer and continues in a relationship with the Lord past follow Christ Jesus, and then there is no harm done, Merely for most I know these are just magical words that relieve them from hell. If I had a website I wouldn't put this on there for fearfulness of leading others downwards a bunny trail of sin as I was. I would however put contact information for those interested in having a relationship with the Lord that they could contact me and I can counsel them with the help of the Holy Spirit. :) God Anoint, Matthew _________________ Matthew Guldner  2010/8/three vii:24 Profile learn Fellow member Joined: 2008/7/24 Posts: 613 Re: "If you want to exist born once more, say these words..." Hope the beneath helps. Paul Washer says this is the type of prayer that leads people to hell. Leonard Ravenhill also mentioned that these words will not save people as there is no genuine repentance/brokeness. He said something like these words take shorter than a car wash, less than 5 minutes and are we really going to be saved, to know God in such a short time. John MacArthur mentioned that this confession is worth nix. The indicate that all these preachers (and I agree with them) are trying to brand is that existence born again/saved is a supernatural work of God and is non made by some human being manipulation such as mouthing some words. The proof as others accept mentioned are the many people that have said these words and are not saved, exercise non follow God, exercise not have an understanding of sin or repentance. Also, how many people take said this prayer or a variation of it many times and still know they are non saved. How many times take we ourselves when nosotros are in doubt of our salvation in our walk with God, kickoff praying this prayer over again and know deep downwards that it doesn't hateful that by saying such things, nosotros are automatically saved.Plenty. There are certainly times when saying this type of prayer does result in a person truly saved. But to imply or say that people are certainly saved by proverb these words is false. There has to be a genuine work past the Holy Spirit and this at times tin be witnessed by some brokeness in people during this prayer but the real proof is a inverse life later on they are saved. If you are actually in doubt, I would suggest you see Paul Washer's sermons in youtube. Paul Washer love to touch on this discipline. Below is a clip from Paul Washer on this. Is a person saved once they say the sinners prayer ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBTSGDn2bt0&feature=related I was trying to google for a Paul Washer prune that addresses this and I institute this past another preacher ie The Prayer that Damns Many to Hell by James Malachi Jennings (have not seen this video before though and so not sure what it says here) http://world wide web.youtube.com/watch?five=DXYu6x9ywLU&feature=PlayList&p=BE9AD515793ED313&playnext=one&index=half-dozen _________________ geraldine  2010/8/iii x:00 Profile believingGod Member Joined: 2009/12/28 Posts: 8 ON, Canada Re: "If y'all want to exist born again, say these words..." We demand to enquire ourselves: If nosotros cannot notice this methodology used in the Bible, so where did it come from?  2010/8/3 10:15 Profile learn Member Joined: 2008/7/24 Posts: 613 Re: BelievingGod, see the videos I posted and you lot shall have your answer. _________________ geraldine  2010/viii/3 10:22 Profile enid Member Joined: 2006/5/22 Posts: 2680 Nottingham, England Re: "If yous want to be born again, say these words..." I recall the nearest we come to a sinner's prayer in the Bible is in Luke 18v13, '...God be merciful to me a sinner.' As it is, this was no vain mantra, or hail mary, uttered out parrot fashion. It was a sinner who knew he needed the mercy of God, and why. And if God could or would non be merciful to him, then all was lost. God bless.  2010/viii/3 x:23 Contour hmmhmm Fellow member Joined: 2006/ane/31 Posts: 4991 Sweden Re: "If you want to exist born again, say these words..." no doubt such a prayer saved many souls, i am sure of that, i am also sure such a prayer deceived millions in our globe assertive they are saved. Myself was saved from something similar.... but not in a church meeting or chantry call, just through a telephone phone call, just i had reached the point where the but way for me was to either dice or be saved, the "master artist" had for some long time been painting a portrait of repentance, in every detail and aspect of my life, and when he works it is not similar with computers you tin can utilize the edit push, no the Lord paints a perfect pic of repentence for united states, and when the fourth dimension comes for the finishing touch it may exist a prayer like that is what is needed to open the kingdom of God for us, but if that picture has not been fatigued and human manipulative methods are used to "push button" people to do this and no picture or work of God has been done, its a counterfeit movie.... and then we need to know something about the people nosotros ask to pray this, exercise we know they are very shut to the kingdom we might atomic number 82 them in such a prayer, simply if nosotros by the spirit get a sense they are far away we might need to sit downward for three or four hours leading them through scriptures, show them they are guilty sinners, poesy to verse to verse show them and when they KNOW they are sinners and without promise nosotros can show them what God has done. It all depends on one thing, if we are all-powerful by the Lord and his spirit leads the states, i am sure sometimes i word can be an instrument to save someone, sometimes years of "work" , sometimes may be a sinners prayer and altar call.... anyway, i recollect we need to about of import be filled with the spirit and lead past him and we will do right. _________________ CHRISTIAN  2010/8/3 11:07 Profile Axe1338 Member Joined: 2005/10/31 Posts: 120 Miami, Fl Re: I believe the best treatment of this answer is found in John chapter 3, Jesus' soapbox with Nicodemus. Nicodemus asked how he tin be born again, Jesus later on replied "The current of air blows wherever it pleases. Yous hear its sound, but you cannot tell where information technology comes from or where information technology is going. So information technology is with anybody born of the Spirit." Jesus didn't tell him repeat this prayer and yous volition be saved, His words are clear: Nicodemus, salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit; it is effectual at His time. Hope this helps...  2010/eight/3 11:24 Contour learn Member Joined: 2008/7/24 Posts: 613 Re: "If yous desire to be born once again, say these words..." Savannah, I think that it would exist better to put something along these lines. This is only a very rough copy. The prove that we are saved is when we want Him, when nosotros larn to walk in obedience to His will, when we accept a relationship with Him, when we dearest reading His words, when we dearest to pray etc. The bible states that we know that we are saved when nosotros have the fruits of the spirit and when the Spirit witness to our spirit. Does this mean all this comes immediately--no. There are times when certain fruits eg: longsuffering will exhibit faster than the others, while some will take much longer. There are times, certain of our faults eg: taking drugs will vanish immediately while others will disappear through much struggle. Read the bible dilligently to show yourself approve of God, to know God, to know God's will and to know whether one is really saved. The bible mentioned that 'my people perish because of lack of knowledge'--that'southward a clear warning here. Being saved is not a bandaid where by some magic words we are automaticaly saved. Being saved is continously walking with God. While at times, people by saying a prayer do indeed become saved and offset exhibiting a changed life, there are times too that people can say a prayer and not be saved yet. Why is that and so? That'south because human being manipulations and/or certain words do non salve us. Saving us is a supernatural work of God. So don't try to do a bandaid stuff on getting God to save you. It doesn't work that mode. Rather, seek to know Him, His words,obey Him. When yous do that, you do not have to worry what type of words you need to oral fissure to be saved. God will salvage you lot and He will guide you on what you demand to pray if whatever. Remember, God is no fool. A person volition know that you do non dearest him/her (even though you may mouth the most perfect beloved speech) considering she is able to meet your actions. What more of God who knows everything. Edit to include: I don't agree with everything on Campus Crusade, but I exercise similar 1 matter which may exist good to attach. In their booklets earlier coming to Christ, there'south 2 pictures ie one picture where you are sitting on the throne and the next pic is where Christ is sitting on the throne and directing your life. I know that in several of the sinners prayer, in that location are words stating this ie repent, turn from your sins, let God be Lord and Saviour--but sometimes, words practice non bear upon us so profoundly as the visual. The visual that Campus Crusade used is very practiced and will get people to recall whether they will let God direct every part of their life before simply mouthing off a sinners prayer. I'thou non totally opposed to putting words such as 'If yous confess with your mouth that ...." but the matter is we demand to be clear that mouthing such words do not automatically mean we are saved. The evidence that nosotros are saved is walking continously with Him, the fruits of the spirit and witness of the spirit. That's something that people need to understand. _________________ geraldine  2010/8/3 12:11 Contour

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